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Testing Roadhog's NEW Power Level after the Nerfs in Overwatch 2

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PurpleBrian2023/01/26(木) 08:00
bro looks like road hog
Elite Combine2023/01/26(木) 07:54
You can tell flats don't play hog when he missed every he ook
Zach Montminy2023/01/26(木) 07:27
If they really wanted to change him from a powerhouse into a guy who forcibly repositions you and needs his team to help finish kills, then his hook cooldown should've been decreased to go along with these nerfs. And they probably should've found a way to give hook even more utility.
JJ2023/01/26(木) 07:27
He’s gotten worse, unfortunately. Hog was better before the nerf and was countered easily if you know how to counter him.

It’s just weird how an outcry of people who don’t know how to play the game had Hog nerfed. Guess I’ll make the most out of him anyways.
kjax2023/01/26(木) 07:26
Whats a right click before a hook
Vesper Shugars2023/01/26(木) 07:19
Yo flats if you hook jump forward shoot melee you can still 1 shot people
Sohtak2023/01/26(木) 07:18
Sombra only felt "Annoying" because she SPECIFICALLY hacked you and only you.
GallonTheGreat2023/01/26(木) 06:47
Hes useless AF

Does no DMG

Combo keeps you alive

Like legit all hog is good for rn is healer ult charge
HogFrog2023/01/26(木) 06:47
hook accuracy must have been 19%
Vinceagashi2023/01/26(木) 06:45
I think hog is actually okay still. They could lower his hook cooldown by a second I think and he would be on a really good spot. Maybe make his heal heal teammates near him too.
Batael2023/01/26(木) 06:45
these hog changes made me smile for the first time since 2020.
Lost Parody2023/01/26(木) 06:39
You look like the numa numa guy ?
Germans_Lol2023/01/26(木) 06:12
He feels more like a skillful tank than b4. Not very skillful but good none the less
Oceanlord322023/01/26(木) 05:57
I never thought I’d be able to do this: a tip for the new hog is you can shoot just like before after the hook and step into the melee after, realistically you’ll either one shot or the prey gets away
Loony Toon2023/01/26(木) 05:52
New open que would be 2 tank 1 dps for utility or carry and 2 healers 1 pockets tanks one pockets the others 2 cp maps could even work also
Addilot2023/01/26(木) 05:49
Guess i'm in the youtube video ?
Addilot2023/01/26(木) 05:49
Mom look, i'm on camera ?
SteggyWeggy2023/01/26(木) 05:43
Every time I watch Flats I am confused at how he’s GM. Wtf is this hog gameplay rn
IsThisGeorgie2023/01/26(木) 05:05
Now roadhog feels more fair and every match with hog is now playable.
Alexander Wagner2023/01/26(木) 05:02
Tbh that looked horrible. I get hog needed nerfs but this will be basically unplayable
Dan Peters2023/01/26(木) 04:52
For me he is still the same good
Jacob Fieselman2023/01/26(木) 04:32
Hog is low-key quality now, almost every character you hook is a different action that needs to be done. Example being Sombra and Ana you have to shoot while they are still stunned, no time to walk forward, unlike a character with no cc or movement to get away
Arthur Dias2023/01/26(木) 05:01
Wich means you need skill and i Love it
Envo2023/01/26(木) 04:12
Itd be easier to see the hook changes if he were to acctually hit one
Eli2023/01/26(木) 03:30
Im top 500 and honestly I main hog and when this happened I was like ight back to apex I go.
YGO Locals2023/01/26(木) 03:18
Every game is now just kill the mercy or lose. Patch was ass
Richard Marshall2023/01/26(木) 03:11
Hog gets dumpster nerfed, "hes ok now" (not biased right?)
NT0022023/01/26(木) 03:07
Flats is so bad at hog its actually laughable?
Kylen Monahan2023/01/26(木) 03:06
Okay this wasn't an accurate portrayal Flats was missing hook on CD
NA2023/01/26(木) 02:57
Its a nerf however hes still good and the targets he hooks should still easily die with your team present
Steve Bob2023/01/26(木) 06:00
Hes trash tier
X Trump Smash X2023/01/26(木) 02:55
lol every player that hats hog proceeds to say how the patch was balanced. They destroyed him wake up.
Pull head out of a$$ then breath
D2023/01/26(木) 02:53
I dont think tanks will be changed in open queue. Its only arcade modes. Open queue is a comp mode
Coo2023/01/26(木) 02:36
Flats only got a single hook kill the first match lol
J ā m ē s2023/01/26(木) 02:36
Your 100% the worst hog player ??
Tang2023/01/26(木) 02:31
reload sync with the music at 10:08
Shiro Xyfy2023/01/26(木) 02:15
If the main argument is for him to be a displacement tank like I see in the comments, then why not make the hook longer and remove the damage from it completely?
Zach Montminy2023/01/26(木) 08:09
Right like idk why the devs even bother with these small but devastating nerfs when they clearly want to rework him anyway. Just do that instead of making him ass for 6 months. I'd be fine if they changed his playstyle up, gave hook a shorter cooldown, gave him more mobility, made it so displacement was his WHOLE thing. but instead what they did is just make him a worse version of the same character.
Gyreon2023/01/26(木) 02:09
they didnt remove the one shot. if you jump and aim for the head, then melee, you still get a onetap. so all they did was give him another bullet and make him shoot slightly faster. also hook damage reduction
elrodeus2023/01/26(木) 02:00
I like the changes (not saying he needs more nerfs) but the good Hogs will still "one shot". Getting that right click off to soften them up before you land the hook is about all that's necessary. I mean... I think that's enough of a cushion for now I think. We'll see.
Steve Bob2023/01/26(木) 03:49
@smokescreen spammer hes not playable hes dead
Hecc2023/01/26(木) 01:59
Flats makes me think I'm a good hog
Seth Rose2023/01/26(木) 01:18
flats has to be the worst top 500 hog player
Alex Belmont2023/01/26(木) 01:11
I had this same EXACT trio of heroes that I fought against as new Roadhog. Sombra, Ana, and Rammatra just going for me. I had fear coursing through me and a renewed hatred for Sombra. lmao Definitely was needed for Roadhog though.
Jay2023/01/26(木) 01:07
Do a new teir list???
Hawk25062023/01/26(木) 12:52
real life roadhog
TheFlyingTomahawk2023/01/26(木) 12:43
This Steve Bob guy is literally in every comment that says good things about hog changes complaining that hog is trash now. Even if he was (which he is not) who cares, to quote the man himself "and the game was great"
B I G Maui 2023/01/26(木) 12:30
It’s funny to see all the people malding over the hog nerf
players mad they can’t play a fat dps with 700 health and a one shot
I’m a hog player myself. And I think he’s still fine. Now he’s an actual tank
Cucumber2023/01/26(木) 12:24
good nerf fucking deserved i can actually enjoy playing comp
Christian Andrade2023/01/26(木) 12:21
Flat kind of sucks with hog
Babousk2023/01/26(木) 12:19
what if you walk backwards and shoot with right click?
Mythical_Diplo2023/01/26(木) 12:08
Yea hog is trash in competitive
erin g2023/01/26(木) 12:01
I had three different games today where I was able to escape hooks on my support mains (Mercy, Moira & Kiriko) so I’m putting my hog pitchfork down for now…
Lethal 3262023/01/25(水) 11:48
thats why flalts is a hog racist he cant use hog
Babadook2023/01/25(水) 11:45
You hit nothing with you hook but ok ?‍♂️
ko17 gametime2023/01/25(水) 11:42
it you look up after you hook some one then u can one shot them
MrSonictheOtter2023/01/25(水) 11:26
Now you can ethically kill Chompy as Hog now :)
Stefan S2023/01/25(水) 11:26
Hog is death and Orissa and Fist will dom because no real counter. I miss my Hog
V1PERPLAYS2023/01/25(水) 11:12
We in the orisa meta now boys ?
Gabriel Alves2023/01/25(水) 11:12
Well, now he's back to being a throw pick again... Who could've seen that coming
Undeniably not Austin2023/01/25(水) 11:11
Finally roadhog can die and the game is somewhat fair now all they need to do is nerf junk rat and torb and the game Will be at peace
Jacob2023/01/25(水) 10:59
Flats is a Roadhog main, he just doesn’t want to admit it.
ChiefinASmith2023/01/25(水) 10:55
I like this. Now they just need to remove him from the game entirely and I’ll be happy.
Mr.Shredder Gaming2023/01/25(水) 10:54
Flats you gotta hook the enemies not the air.
7 ツ2023/01/25(水) 10:51
ill never die as lucio
aqn012023/01/25(水) 10:49
His hook accuracy is, interesting.
Waifu is Laifu2023/01/25(水) 10:47
Hog takes 0 skill and deserves more nerfs
hoboIove2023/01/25(水) 10:46
Actual useless pick now
Nuclear Crayons2023/01/25(水) 10:42
Thats that Top 500 hook accuracy right there. With every video you prove to me that GM is just a number.
Renutus 152023/01/26(木) 04:03
Then get to it yourself orphan
Austin Crawford2023/01/25(水) 10:38
Now can they actually fix Orisa?
Jordan2023/01/25(水) 10:25
Waaaahh roadhog can’t one shot consistently anymore now I have to use my brain to actually play him waaaaaah Hog mains punching the air right now ? As a Doom main I couldn’t be happier!
K I2023/01/25(水) 10:17
The more "t500" gameplay i see, the more i realise the average player is actually good, its all about game awareness at this stage.. and maybe a 3 stack with other grandmasters
Sensui Shinobu2023/01/26(木) 03:52
i wouldnt bet on that, try getting yourself in 't500' lobbies first and you might change your mind
Julian__2023/01/25(水) 10:14
Finally the gold hog gameplay I can relate to.
LivedCoffee2023/01/25(水) 10:13
I think we'll see a rise in Sombra. She works well with Soujourn by giving her walls on squishies. and she can stop Roadhog's heal, and Interrupt Orisa's cooldown rotation by hacking spin. Then EMP is a good counter for popular defensive ults like Beat, & Whole Hog.
Phil2023/01/26(木) 03:12
not unless they buff her, shes bottom tier for a reason and it had nothing to do with hog being in the meta. Her damage is just nonsense low. I'd agree she would theoretically help with orisa's rotation but that's one of many reasons why ram will be meta over orisa anyway.

EMP doesn't really counter beat like it used to either, you're much better off hacking the lucio when he goes for beat, and it doesn't counter whole hog at all.

If sombra couldn't even be relevant to counter the short OP doom meta, she's not going to be relevant again without direct changes
LivedCoffee2023/01/26(木) 04:57
@Phil  Her damage is fine for a semi-flank character with a big mag. Also emping beat is very much worth it to maintain pressure. I could be wrong about hack canceling whole hog but either way emp is a great ult in general. 40% is a decent chunk of damage and as a combo ult it's up there with nano personally.

Sombra wasn't relevant during Doom meta because the only thing she could do against Doom was hack block, consistently at least, which wasn't the main thing making him good. Plus new Doom has really good spy check just by playing the game. Slam and Punch got bigger hit boxes and he's got a shotgun.

Sombra is good now because she works well with snipers like widow and Sojourn. As well as alleviates pressure from supports by being pretty self reliant heal wise if she wants. Which opens up space for supports to do more. She also has fairly good damage, fantastic mobility, great escape tools and most importantly shuts down the 2 characters that could still content for best tank, and therefore still be popular. Orissa and Hog. She interrupts Orisa rotation and stops hog self heal while increasing the focus fire potential on both simultaneously. She's also got really good defensive prowess in the form of being able to protect people like Brig by placing her Tele in her own backline.

I think the only reason people aren't playing her is because her power isn't strictly in her silence which is what most people are used to when they think of Sombra being meta. But the sheer adaptability of her utility isn't something to sneeze at.
Chris Garrett2023/01/26(木) 05:22
As a ball player I hope they nerf her even more
Daniel M2023/01/25(水) 10:09
Hog is ass now. They should just delete him from the game.
Claudius Pulcher2023/01/25(水) 10:08
can't test hog one shot if you can't hook anything... starting to see why flats wanted hog nerfed
LivedCoffee2023/01/25(水) 09:59
Hog + Sojourn is ew rn, she builds up rail hog hooks someone and she pops them in the head.
Me yesthisguy2023/01/25(水) 09:56
1:25 always has been
SkyHectic2023/01/25(水) 09:54
love you flats but you’re allergic to landing the hook ma boi
your uber driver2023/01/25(水) 09:53
Why am I actually having fun with hog now?
Lucifer2023/01/25(水) 09:37
Hook range is still to much considering his secondary fire is a more range shot there's no need for his hook to be able to pull you from how far away you are
SM1TH _2023/01/25(水) 09:21
Just watch Cyx’s video when he hooks people into walls you can one shot. Also soujorn hasn’t really changed whatsoever.
Bromega Man2023/01/25(水) 09:17
I like the hog change because flanking with him doesn't guarantee a kill. Most hogs I run into do that and it's annoying when the team doesn't try to focus him.

Now if he flanks with a teammate than it doesn't change much, but it's still changes the solo hog play style.
Joshua Moorehead2023/01/25(水) 09:17
Instead of hooking the 200 hp player off rip shoot the medium range bullet then hook and they should die maybe
wawrzys2023/01/25(水) 09:13
Orisa was literally made to stop Doom in the lore, so she should be always able to do it
κιʟʟκᴀмιʟʟ2023/01/25(水) 09:13
Hog now feels not op and more forgiving, i think hes perfect.
Kemochi2023/01/25(水) 09:13
l play a lot of games where i can get one shit from far range close range and mid range it sucks but is far better then being displaced and team shot. like team shot deaths are the most annoying thing for me since i know i had no chance compared to a 1v1, yes regularly i would get one tap by a hog but if he messed up or my teammate had my back i was safe, now nothing can save you from a whole team unloading on you
FakeCowboy12023/01/25(水) 09:12
Apparently if u jump after hook it still 1 shots flats
Henrique Sant'Anna2023/01/25(水) 09:11
Flats: Let's try out new Roadhog one shot !!!
Also Flats: Proceeds to not land a single hook on squishies
24 mp2023/01/26(木) 03:54
are we watching the same video?
ralphy2023/01/26(木) 04:34
@24 mp l2 min and 30 secs in he missed like 5 hooks damn hes turrible. Couldnt watch it lol.
Sean Yellin2023/01/26(木) 07:16
He got sombra once surprisingly and he got the weakened ana in the first game. I don’t remember him doing anything 2nd game. He got hooks just wasn’t able to land kills.

I kinda like hog now it’s more bearable

The 4 meters change is nice
Georjira2023/01/25(水) 09:08
mei/hog might actually be a crazy kidnap combo.
Joey Jonquantavius Jr2023/01/25(水) 11:49
I never could express my interest in First Person Shooters. Now I ca-
Georjira2023/01/26(木) 01:23
@Joey Jonquantavius Jr lmfao
CGI2023/01/25(水) 09:07
stop wasting your life on a pixel screen and hit the gym.
Brady Dickman2023/01/25(水) 08:59
Love how orissa was supposed to be buffed to counter hog then they just didn't nerf her when hog got nerfed.
MinGuigui2023/01/25(水) 10:09
They did though? Fortify went from 125 to 75. That’s pretty big.
The players opinion2023/01/25(水) 11:52
@MinGuigui 50 hp makes zero difference, the nerf did nothing to what made her actually broken, which is her ability cycle and utility which makes her undeniably still broken
Black Redd2023/01/25(水) 08:57
Not fully reverting the orisa buffs really is a blizzard move. Actually brainded
Ferc Polo2023/01/25(水) 08:55
Yeah, hog is the WORST tank now, worse than doomfist. How great.....And yet Orisa? Unchanged, still a disaster.
Jo4Sh0w2023/01/25(水) 08:53
Is it safe to main hog now?
Thisisname2023/01/25(水) 08:48
Think this might have been a buff to Flats Hog... he never lands his hooks anyway.
Tyler Landers2023/01/25(水) 08:42
How do you find people to group chat with?
demon blood2023/01/25(水) 08:31
So their is still a way to one shot without moving in to do it I’m not a roadhog one trick I’m actually a widow main but if u aim at the neck u one shot even from the distance
Tony BlobFish2023/01/25(水) 08:23
Wow that’s some great hook accuracy
Experience Master2023/01/25(水) 08:20
best way to put the nerfs, hogs not nerfed into the ground, he's just not easy anymore
Insert clever name here2023/01/25(水) 08:15
And the game was great.
MrDinoBrian2023/01/25(水) 08:12
bro has like 20% hook accuracy
No SkillZ2023/01/25(水) 08:08
I believe bella has a video out of hog if you jump and aim for head the combo is still a thing
JosKaizer2023/01/25(水) 07:58
This is a good change because a good hog is always going to be playing in a higher lobby with better coordination and would possess better understanding of the kit. The nerf was meant for lower level players abusing the one shot now they have to put in effort

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